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Planned litters to date.
Bailstails Monster Inc ISDS 290468                                              Canen Cadbury at Bailstails.ISDS 284993: 
                                
Bailstails Monster Inc ISDS 290468 Clear by parentage for CEA/CH, DNA tested clear for TNS and CL.
Canen Cadbury at Bailstails ISDS 284993 DNA Carrier for CEA/CH, DNA Clear for TNS and CL
Possible Coats colours

Black & White   70% 
Black Tricolour   27% 
Red / Chocolate & White   2% 
Red / Chocolate Tricolour   1% 
 
Rough (long) coat   100% 
 

picture of nell to come very soon.
Bailstails Monster Inc ISDS 290468 x Thorbury Nell ISDS 292230  

Possible Coats colours

Black & White   90% 
Black Tricolour   9% 
Red / Chocolate & White   1% 
 
Rough (long) coat   100% 
 

Bailstails Monster Inc DNA results as above.
Thorbury Nell DNA tested Clear for CEA/CH, TNS and CL.
Once i have hip score results for all dogs we will then add info on future litter dates.
All these dogs have great temperaments, keen to work/please, come with loads of drive protential.
If interested in either of these mating please contact me either by phone or email, both details on main page.
All possible new owners will be checked out as you should us.
Refferences Please.

 
 
 

Aled and Llangwm Bob after winning the World Championship in 2002

Llangwm Bob in his glory.

Lucy was mated to Aled Owens Llangwm Bob ISDS 224454 on the 24th May.
His own trialling record is impeccable, in 2002 he won the coveted title of 'World Sheepdog Champion' as well as being the International Supreme Champion in 2000 and twice reserve Welsh National Champion.
Llangwm Bob   (Reg. no. 224454 )
By Carl 188967, out of Nel 171678.
- Reserve Welsh Champion - 2000, 2004.
- Int. Farmers Champion - 2000.
- Int. Supreme Champion - 2000.
- World Sheepdog Trials Champion - 2002

Bob is DNA normal for CEA and has a Hip score of total 3-5=8

Pups from this mating should be semi coated.
 

Bailtails has produced Top (Grade 7) Agility & Flyball dogs.

Read all about them on Previous litters page.

My main aim is to breed for Health/Temperament/Speed/Drive and most of all a Loyal/Loving family pet that fits in well with you and your life style.
Breeding only occasionally we aim to produce dogs
that are sound, have a good temperament with people and are perfectly at home with some type of Working environment Albeit Agility/Obedience/Working Trials or Sheep Work..

Both dogs are Hip Scored, PRA.Clear plus DNA Normal for CEA/CH.
Lucy is DNA clear for CEA/CH, TNS, CL and PRA clear.
Pups from this mating will be CEA/CH normal by parentage.
 

The pretty and versatile duel Reg. Lucy ISDS 267933/KC No.AE0900163  was be mated

to the very handsome and talented Bob ISDS 224454.


Lucy is Semi coated

Bob is semi/rough coated.

Click on Lucy's name below to find out about her:

 Lucy ISDS 267933

Click on Bob's name below and find out about this great dog:

Bob ISDS 224454.
Open trial winner, renowned for his stylish working manner and super temperament

Both dogs PRA clear,
DNA tested Normal/Clear for CEA/CH.
Pups from this mating will be Genetically "Normal"
for CEA/CH by Parentage.

Hips Scored:
Lucy 4-5
Bob 3-5.

(Total hip score for both dogs 17)

Possible coat colours

Black & White  83%
Black Tricolour 17%

Bob ISDS 224454 is going to Lucy ISDS 267933,

Click here for Lucy's pedigree

Previous Owners

All previous owners of our dogs are now our friends and give us regular pictures and updates
on their progress and if you would like any information about our lines please don't hesitate
to ask for references and contacts.

Previous Litters

You can also go on their own pages and read what they have writen about
their dogs themselves.

What i ask of you

Please be prepared as i do ask for references from people who know you well, I also need to know what field you intend to work you dog in and what kind of life it will lead.
Bailstails lines need to respect you and not be dominated by you, so do allow them to get things right while youngsters, positive handling is a great way to achieve these results what ever their age, so don't let them learn bad habits,
i'm sure if you can do all of these things you will have a life time companion.
I do try to choose the right owners/homes for my dogs off-springs.

What these dogs will offer you

Pups from this mating should offer you 110% of themselves as they are highly INTELLIGENT and come from
strong proven working lines, they should be very keen and biddable with not too strong and eye.
Bob x Lucy progeny should have good (proportionate) eye that will not be too 'focused'...keen enough but not as much as would cause problems to working at other Disciplines
other than Sheep work.

Read below for more information about puppies.

Puppies should be of kindly temperament, be of athletic conformation, black/white or tri-coloured with coats of medium texture fur, and having semi tipped or prick ears.

Lucy and Bob have been DNA-CEA tested as Clear/Normal: (meaning they can never produce CEA/CH affected pups.)....both Lucy and Bob have been BVA PRA eye tested and hip scored.

What you will get with your new pup.

Pups will be reared in the home, well socialized with people and ours/other dogs, used to all noises inside/outside the house. By use of sound DVD.

Well traveled from 4 weeks onwards, used to going/traveling in a cage, started clicker training and part house Trained.
Puppies will be available to go to their new homes at around 6.1/2 to 7 wk's old:
micro-chip, BVA eye-tested and be Vet-health checked, all puppies will be
Dual Registered: (ISDS) (K.C.)
All pups will come with puppy pack, progress sheet, 6 weeks free insurance, pedigree
and micro chipped.

Not suitable for pet homes

I will only consider experienced collie owners  who intend to work their dogs, they will Not be suitable for  Pet  so please don't ask.

If you think you may be interested in one of our puppies please bear in mind that border collies are not for the faint hearted; these dogs are bred with some aspect of work in mind so will require an active and stimulating lifestyle.

Great Temperament Speed/Drive and Willingness to work

If you feel you can handle a dog with a Great Temperament, Speed/Drive and Willingness to work
and won't to please, contact me, Details below.
If you are interested in putting your name on my puppy list just let me know by e-mail or  phone:

Sue on Home No.024 76 611958.
Mobile No. 07746570356
E-mail sue.bailstails@ntlworld.com

Pups will be suitable for Agility/Obedience/Working Trials/Sheep Work only.

Breeding restrictions

All puppies are sold with Breeding restrictions, when old enough, will have the restrictions lifted
if you decide to breed after they have been given a suitable/satisfactory Hip score.

Return Policy basis.

All our puppies are sold on the strict understanding that they be returned if they cannot kept at any stage during their lifetimes, i would never want any of my pups/dogs ending up in a rescue
centre, i would rather rehome them myself to a suitable home.

Education for your new pup.

This part gives you some basics on the bringing up of your puppies. The following exercises are just supposed to serve you as helpful hints in the education of your dog. On the book market there is a lot of literature on the various educational methods that you and your puppy can make use of. On top of that there are play schools and imprinting days for dogs that you should give a try and attend with your puppy. You can learn a whole lot about your dog and his education there. For the following exercises, the timing, the correct confirmation and proper repetition of the exercises are most important. In between the single lessons you should play with your puppy so he will not lose pleasure in learning.

Leading on the leash:

You can get puppies used to leash and collar early on.
Approximately from the tenth week on they should know both collar and leash and not struggle against them any more. Start out with a lightweight collar. When putting it on, take care that two fingers will fit easily in between the collar and the dog's neck. At the beginning, do not put the collar on for more than fifteen minutes, then take it off again. If the puppy tolerates that, you can extend the time gradually until he is not bothered by the collar any longer. During the first few exercises you should have a close eye on the little one since he will try to get rid of the unpleasant thing around his neck. It is a good idea to combine the exercise with a game in order to distract the dog's attention so that he will not mind it any longer.Getting used to the collar is as important as getting used to the leash. As soon as the puppy is not bothered by the collar any more, start putting on a light leash and let him run around and play with it for a while. When he is no longer hassled by the long thing hanging down, take the leash in your hand and keep playing with the dog. At any rate, avoid straining at the leash and pulling the puppy along with you because otherwise he will definitely develop an aversion to being on the leash. Again you should gradually extend the exercising time. The leash is a good support when you are playing with the puppy. Whenever you call him you can make him come with a slight pull on the leash, unless he comes by himself.

Sit:

Stand in front of your dog with a treat in your hand. Show it to him but do not let him have it. Then lift your hand over your head to the back. The puppy will most likely sit down. As he does so, give him the order "Sit!". As soon as the dog sits down, give him the treat as well as approval of what he did. Then stop the exercise and play with him. Within a short time, repeat the exercise. After some exercise the dog will already act according to the verbal order. Then you can start to extend the sitting time.

Lie down:

This exercise will be most successful with a treat as well. Show your puppy the treat, but this time, move your hand towards the ground. The dog will follow you with his nose. As soon as he starts lying down, give him the order "Lie down!" and when he has done so let him have the treat. Just like sitting, staying down can be extended.

Stay:

The order "Stay" is meant to make the dog stay in the position that you told take up. You have to carry out this exercise very carefully, because the puppy can quickly get the feeling of being left alone and get a shock. It would be best to train this in the presence of an experienced dog trainer or else the dog might show a unintended but normal reaction.

Heel:

This order tells the dog, that he is supposed to walk right beside you. Usually the dog walks on his leaders' left. Start the exercise with making the dog sit on your left. Take the leash loosely into your hand give him the command "Heel". Walk a few steps with your dog. If he walks beside you nicely, give him approval of his action and a treat. Then stop walking and make the dog sit next to you. In the beginning keep your dog on short leash in order to show him the position next to you which you want him to keep during this exercise.If are successful in this, extend the number of steps and loosen the leash bit by bit to make him learn to walk beside you on the leash without strain. Again, approval and subsequent play are indeed important.

Staying alone:

Actually dogs should never be left alone for a longer period. But it is necessary for the dog to learn that being alone for some time is ok and that you will always be back. Start teaching him that after having played with your dog for some time or gone for an ample walk with him. Then the dog will be tired and probably he will even sleep. Start leaving him alone for short periods of time like five or ten minutes. Then go to your dog, acknowledge his patience and play with him. Practise this with your dog once a day. If he is able to stay alone for that period proceed in extending the time for another ten minutes. Then play with him and show him that you are satisfied. If the dog starts whining, ignore his whimpering. As soon as the dog stops wailing, go in and reinforce him. In no case you should storm in and yell at the dog, as despite the negative experience of being yelled at, some dogs perceive an unintended connection as follows: "Whenever I whine, someone comes in and I am no longer alone." Furthermore, you should see to it that the dog has emptied his bowels. Anyway, Should there be a puddle or a small pile of muck when you come back, this is your fault and not the dog's. Clean the spot and take better care next time. You should never punish the dog, because he is not able remember what he did. As he sees it, you punish him for the joy he feels to see you.

History of Border Collies

Initially, the Border Collie comes from the border counties between Scotland and England.
Very early (ca. 1750) one can find black and white dogs that are very similar to today's Border. These dogs are known for their huge herding drive and intelligence. In that region they were bred for the working sheep.

The first well-known dog that comes up to the Border was "Old Hemp". He was born in 1893 and comes from farmer A. Telfer's breed. This strong black and white dog did not need any training in herding and with ease won every trial.
As a result, the descendants of "Old Hemp" were much in demand among the shepherds and so spread in the entire region. Every Border Collie of today can be traced back to that dog.
Today, apart from the British Islands there are also very many Borders in New Zealand and Australia, since the sheep population there is also very high. In addition to working cattle, the Border today has many other tasks, for example in sports for dogs and as a help to handicapped persons.

What is a Border Collie?

Border Collies have their origin in many generations of dogs that have been selected according to their capability to work cattle.
The express "Border" in the name of the breed arises from the pastureland in the border counties between Scotland and England. There, the dogs were mostly used for working cattle. "Collie" is probably deduced from the Celtic word for "useful".
If you watch a Border Collie working, there are not only the intelligence and elegance to be admired, but in some way also the masterpiece of the genes that have developed under human influence.A Border is a dog that works with a master as a replacement for the pack. A dog with all instincts to round-up and to stalk on the quiet like a wolf, but also a dog that still accepts the commands of his master and protects the cattle. A dog with an enormous speed, staying power and mobility that can quasi think with his paws and walk on a blade of grass. A dog whose strength of will and whose hypnotising eye can intimidate animals of multiple heights.
If you have seen all this, you get an impression of what the Border Collie is able to achieve by the right training and handling and it soon becomes explicit why two short walks a day will never be sufficient to meet the needs of this breed.

Many behaviour patterns of the Border Collie are not bad or abnormal but are just deeply routed in the instincts of the breed. These behaviours cannot simply be filtered out of the dog, but have to be brought adequately in train. There have to be found ways to direct these behaviours into the right channels.
 

Typical behavioural patterns:

Eyeing:

The term "eying" indicates the fixing look of the dog which is to set an object in motion. Everything that is in focus of the dog can elicit eyeing (e.g. shades, lights, cars, animals, children). Every time the fixed object moves, the dog experiences a confirming sense of achievement. The dog thinks that he has elicited the movement. Sometimes the very expectation of such reinforcement is enough for a dog to fixate the object for a long time.

Chasing:

It is important for a shepherd that a dog works quickly, e.g. while pursuing sheep that are breaking out. The drive to chase a breaking out animal naturally also exists in the everyday life of a dog, which is bothersome and annoying to the "non-shepherd". This is primarily the case when the dog for lack of occasions passes over to chasing people, cars or other. From the point of view of the dog, he is not done with his work as long as the object has not come to a stand. Eyeing and chasing often take place in repeating procedures.
 

Working sheep is the basic component of a working Border Collie. The dog draws the sheep together to bring them to the desired place more easily. This way they are more compact and easier to handle for him. Sheep that break out or stay back in the process are instantly brought back. This is a remnant of the natural techniques of hunting of the wolf. In everyday life, that happens for example if the dog encircles the children of the five year old daughter's birthday party and keeps them together in a corner or when the dog is for a walk with people and other dogs and again the Border Collie steadily tries to encircle them.

Gripping:

If a Border Collie catches for a sheep with his teeth that is called gripping: Gripping can serve to drive as well as to retain the sheep. You also have to keep this in mind when a dog "pricks" a walker in the heels who stayed behind "his group".

Dominant and aggressive behavior:

A weak and shy dog would never effectively work on a flock. The breed was created to drive and direct animals by willpower and decisiveness alone. Thus, many Border Collies are quite dominant and go-getting. This has to be considered concerning the schooling and the organization of the family pack. It often comes about that the Border Collie only obeys one master and works only for him. He will only rudimentarily obey other persons in the household. This has to be worked at, so that the dog will know which position he has inside the ranking of the family pack. It is up to the owner which position the dog inhabits in the ranking. In some cases, aggression can lead to substantial problems if it is not handled right. The reasons for aggression in the Border Collie are very complex and diverse, e.g. hereditary predisposition, stress, anxiety.

Are you the right person for a Border Collie "yes or no"?!

Nobody likes to hear that he is not the adequate owner for a dog or a breed even if he likes them particularly.Unfortunately, the expectations of the owner and reality of living together are a bit diverging.
If there are problems with a dog, we tend to attribute the origin to the dog and not to search for it in ourselves. A good care for your dog starts with finding the breed that is the aptest for your individual circumstances of life and your characteristics.

In most cases, the Border Collie is not the proper dog if:

1. you never had a dog before
2. you don’t have much time for walks
3. you have very young children
4. you are older and not very active
5. you are often out of house and can’t take the dog with you
 

But there are also cases where people succeed in giving their dog a happy life by much dedication, knowledge and determinedness to deal with the breed. After all, both sides could have been spared of many letdowns if the above rules had been considered
Apart from these basic matters, the individual personality is another factor. Border Collies are quick in thinking and moving and as an owner you have to be capable of foreseeing them even quicker to be able to control their working drives. You can spare long marches if you are able to make out the first onset of chasing behavior and instantly to command "lie down" before the dog is far away in the distance. So if you can't quickly foresee things, you should be a good walker.
A Border Collie needs a leader, who can give the dog the feeling that he always does the right thing for the person because this is what a Border Collie wants to. You have to be able to be consequent even if it was simpler not to have to be so. You have to know how to bring out the best in the dog. Someone who does not possess these character attributes has to laboriously learn them.

Border Collies
Coat colours

Information about the genetic back-ground of coat colours can be found in Genetics of coat colours and other exterior properties.

The colour of the eye should be brown with all coat colours; excepting the merle colours were (partially) blue eyes are permitted.

    Black/white

This is the most common colour. As with all other colours the preferred pattern has a white blaze that continues over the top of the head into the white area in the neck, a white end of the tail, white fore legs up till the elbow and white socks on the hind legs.
 

Spottie

Chocolate/white

The black has been replaced by a dark brown colour. In the USA for example this colour is called red/white, but to prevent confusion with other reddish colours choclate or brown is a better description.
 

Chocolate/white

Red/white (yellow/white)

A lot rarer are red/white or yellow/white Border Collies. The markings should be the same as with black/white dogs. A lot of shades of this colour exist with just as many names: blond, cream, red, yellow. Because of the fact that all eumelanin pigment is surpressed and the tan pigment of the tricolour is caused by the same (although local) lack of eumelanin the combination red/white and tricolour is not visible.
Because the colour chocolate brown is called red in the USA yellow/white is probably a better description for this colour.

Blue/white

The black colour is diluted and has become blue-grey. This colour is also called 'Slate' which describes the colour rather well. The colour is rather rare.

Lilac/white

The chocolate brown colour can be diluted into a 'lilac' colour.

Sable/white

This colour looks a bit like a dark Red/white, but is quite different. Sable is actually a pattern where (part of) the hairs have dark tips (also seen in e.g. shelties and collies).
 

Tricolour

Tan (brownish) markings along the outside of the the coloured parts and above the eyes are specific for this pattern. The width of the markings and the intensity of the colour can vary.
This pattern can be combined with black, blue, chocolate brown and merle.

Saddle pattern

This pattern looks a bit like the tricolour, the the tan parts are bigger and has no specific patterns on the head. The dark colour is limited to a saddle shaped patch on the back.

Blue Merle

This effect is known in many breeds. The black parts have been replaced by grey and black patterns in many shades.
When both parents are merle part of the offspring inherits this trait from both sides and become "double merles".

Blue Merle/Red Merle
 

Very rare. The same effect as with the Blue Merle, except that the base colour is chocolate brown.

Sable Merle/Red Merle

Although it is genetically possible to produces a sable merle, it is rather difficult in practice. The pattern is only visible in the puppy coat. After the dog has his final coat the Merle pattern is almost impossible to see. To prevent these dogs from being mated to other merles it is advisable not to mix sable and merle.

Special markings

Some names are used for variations on the colours (or patterns) described above.
White face

Not a real colour or pattern, but used for a quite white marking on the head.
 

White face
They come even whiter; in the extremely white Border Collie no or hardly any coloured markings are present. The dog in this picture only has black ears and a black spot on the base of his tail; he is a perfect illustration for the sw-gene.

Mottled

This pattern consists of freckles in the white parts of the coat. Can be combined with all coat colours. The pattern is also called Ticked.
 
 

BVA UK hip scoring System Guideline.

The current UK average for border collies is 13. This system of scoring varies around the world.

    0-4   Exellent
5-10 Good
11-18 Fair
    19-25 Borderline.
    26-35 Mild Dysplacia.
    36-50 Moderate Dysplacia
    51-106 Servere Dysplacia.

CEA/CH

Help on CEA/CH
 

Collie Eye Anomaly (CEA), also known as Choroidal Hypoplasia (CH), is an inherited eye disorder which stops the choroid developing normally. Dogs can be examined at a young age (between 5 and 8 weeks) with an opthalmoscope, and in many cases CEA can be diagnosed if present. Severe cases can lead to loss of vision, although rarely result in total blindness.

Research at Cornell University and at The Fred Hutchinson Cancer Research Center uncovered the disease gene, and the disease causing mutation. The mutation follows the inherited recessive pattern, i.e. the parents of an affected offspring must at least carry the mutation themselves (they could also be affected). Due to the discovery of the gene, a DNA test is possible to determine not only affected dog, but also carriers of the disease (in whom the disease will never be present, but who may pass the mutation onto their offspring). Our Software makes use of the results of this DNA test to infer probabilities of being affected or carrying the mutation. The result of dogs whose genotype is known (either through a DNA test or by being diagnosed affected by a vet) appears with a thick outline in the genetic propagation diagram. For these dogs, the word Tested appears in the corresponding CEA field. Probabilities for untested dogs are inferred automatically and are presented with a thin outline in the genetic propagation diagram.

The below table shows the average outcome of all the possible matings:

             Affected sire                Carrier sire                         Carrier sire 
     Affected Dam All the puppies will be Affected Half the puppies will be Carriers
Half the puppies will be Affected
All the puppies will be Carriers
     Carrier Dam Half the puppies will be Carriers
Half the puppies will be Affected
A quarter of the puppies will be Normal
Half the puppies will be Carriers
A quarter of the puppies will be Affected
Half the puppies will be Normal
Half the puppies will be Carriers

    Normal Dam
All the puppies will be Carriers Half the puppies will be Normal
Half the puppies will be Carriers
All puppies will be Normal

                                                                                                                              CL

Help on CL

Ceroid Lipofuscinosis (CL) in the Border Collie is a rare disease which affects the nerve cells of the body. The disease may result in death. It is inherited and follows the inherited recessive pattern, which means that the parents of an affected offspring must both be either carriers or affected themselves.

Research at the University of New South Wales has uncovered the disease gene, and the disease causing mutation. Due to the discovery of the gene, a DNA test is possible to determine not only affected dog, but also carriers of the disease (in whom the disease will never be present, but who may pass the mutation onto their offspring). Our Software makes use of the results of this DNA test to infer probabilities of being affected or carrying the mutation. The result of dogs whose genotype is known (either through a DNA test or by being diagnosed affected by a vet) appears with a thick outline in the genetic propagation diagram. For these dogs, the word Tested appears in the corresponding CL field. Probabilities for untested dogs are inferred automatically and are presented with a thin outline in the genetic propagation diagram.

The below table shows the average outcome of all the possible matings:
                        Affected Sire         Carrier sire          Normal sire 
Affected Dam All the puppies will be Affected Half the puppies will be Carriers
Half the puppies will be Affected
All the puppies will be Carriers
Carrier Dam Half the puppies will be Carriers
Half the puppies will be Affected
A quarter of the puppies will be Normal
Half the puppies will be Carriers
A quarter of the puppies will be Affected
Half the puppies will be Normal
Half the puppies will be Carriers
Normal Dam All the puppies will be Carriers Half the puppies will be Normal
Half the puppies will be Carriers
All puppies will be Normal

                                                                                                                             TNS

Help on TNS

Trapped Neutrophil Syndrome (TNS), also known as Hereditary Neutropenia, is an inherited disease which causes a low number of neutrophils to circulate in the blood. As neutrophils are necessary for destroying bacteria, a low number of them causes affected dogs to eventually die from infections they cannot stop.

Puppies as young as 2 weeks can display signs, and usually die (or are PTS) by 4 months. Until the DNA test came out in 2007, it was very difficult to diagnose TNS because deceased puppies were often not even suspected of being affected with TNS. This, compounded with the fact that the neutrophil count may not have been much lower than expected for an affected puppy, may mean that TNS is more widely spread than initially expected.

Some of the possible signs of TNS affected puppies:

    * The puppies growth rate may dramatically slow down from 2 weeks of age.
    * They experience bouts of diarrhoea and fever.
    * Lameness and sensitivity to pressure on joints may also occur.
    * The puppies may also have an unusual head shape.

The below table shows the average outcome of all the possible matings:
        Affected Sire         Carrier sire          Normal sire 
Affected Dam All the puppies will be Affected Half the puppies will be Carriers
Half the puppies will be Affected
All the puppies will be Carriers
Carrier Dam Half the puppies will be Carriers
Half the puppies will be Affected
A quarter of the puppies will be Normal
Half the puppies will be Carriers
A quarter of the puppies will be Affected
Half the puppies will be Normal
Half the puppies will be Carriers
Normal Dam All the puppies will be Carriers Half the puppies will be Normal
Half the puppies will be Carriers
All puppies will be Normal